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The quarter position
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April 11, 2012
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paul thomas
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Hi guys 

just got back from training , started working on the quarter position tonight , in particular the ” punch barrage ” and the” face lock” both went down really well so thanks to coach Kiser for his clear instruction .

 

all the best paul.

April 11, 2012
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paul thomas said

Hi guys 

just got back from training , started working on the quarter position tonight , in particular the ” punch barrage ” and the” face lock” both went down really well so thanks to coach Kiser for his clear instruction .

 

all the best paul.

 

I’ll be sure to pass on the good news.  I’m my opinion, the quarter position is still a relative blind spot in many MMA Practitioner’s games.  I use a great deal of Kiser’s tricks, but my highest percentage finish directly from Quarter Position is the Ghetto Choke.

April 11, 2012
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Dr Sick

 

Its a position i have not really looked at that hard before i must admit , i have been stuck with the usual getting hooks in an looking for a rolling armbar or trying to lift the head for a rear naked .

Rest assured we will be working through a lot more ,ghetto choke next time maybe lol !

all the best paul

April 12, 2012
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Hi guys

just another quick couple of questions that came up with training the quarter position , do you have any tips to help open up the guy if he balls up really tight maybe catching your hand too ? im a fairly big guy so i am able to muscle the guy open to get my cross face or punch options but what about for the smaller guys ? my next question was ,after the cacc turn would you try for a mount position or go for a submission from side control ? if so any that you would recommend ?

 

all the best paul. 

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paul thomas said

Hi guys

just another quick couple of questions that came up with training the quarter position , do you have any tips to help open up the guy if he balls up really tight maybe catching your hand too ? im a fairly big guy so i am able to muscle the guy open to get my cross face or punch options but what about for the smaller guys ? my next question was ,after the cacc turn would you try for a mount position or go for a submission from side control ? if so any that you would recommend ?

 

all the best paul. 

My first suggestion would be review the Quarter Position 11 – Take The Back video, which you may want to check again if you’ve already looked at it because I notices (after reading your post) had featured one of the wrong videos.  I made the correction and now the proper Taking the Back video is featured.

 

Sometimes (especially when I want to set the Ghetto Choke), instead of trying to take the back or force my hooks in, I just wait in Quarter.  When my opponent attempts to escape, he generally opens up a little, and that’s when I go for the Ghetto.  In our video we showed jumping over to the far side, but you can also catch it near side without having to jump over the guy.  Just wait and be patient, you’d be amazed at how often you’ll catch guys with the Ghetto when they try to make a break for it, especially when they have more of a wrestling energy.

 

When your opponent catches your arm I’d look at trying to punish him for it by using Joe Wiggan’s set up for the Arm Bar.  He demonstrates it from the back mount but you can hit it from quarter position if you’re looking for it and your opponent likes to hook the arm you have controlling his hip.  How do I know?  Because he catches me with it when I’m not paying attention and I hook his arm from bottom Quarter Position.

 

As far as attacking from mount or from side cross, I think that’s more a matter of personal preference.

April 13, 2012
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Hi

thanks for your reply , i must admit i didnt look hard enough as the number 11 video has some answers , the variation that pulls the face up really appeals too ! i think the arm bar will need a bit of slow mo to get my head around though lol! .as you said in the previous post the quarter position is a bit of a hidden gem and worth the work to have in your arsenal .

cheers paul.

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You might also consider the Catch As Catch Can, Cross Ride a.k.a. the Iowa Ride if you can get one hook in.  I’ve been prefering that position/ride as vs the full back mount recently.  It just seems to give you more options.  From the Cross Ride you can hit the Wrestlers Guillotine a.k.a. the twister, the Crotch Ripper, Leg Lock Variations and the Scorpion Death Lock.  Oh and how could i forget, the good old fashioned RNC.

April 13, 2012
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Dr Sick said

You might also consider the Catch As Catch Can, Cross Ride a.k.a. the Iowa Ride if you can get one hook in.  I’ve been prefering that position/ride as vs the full back mount recently.  It just seems to give you more options.  From the Cross Ride you can hit the Wrestlers Guillotine a.k.a. the twister, the Crotch Ripper, Leg Lock Variations and the Scorpion Death Lock.  Oh and how could i forget, the good old fashioned RNC.

Hi , thanks again i will be sure to check those out too , CACC has some great techniques, its a shame it does not get the recognition it deserves over here , especially in the south where i am .

cheers paul .

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