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The Penicillin Theory
May 6, 2011
11:10 am
Dr Sick

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I have always believed in the "Secret Techique".  Perhaps not a technique that only one person has ever seen it, but rather, of relative secrecy.  The idea is that the less know, and wide spread a technique the better it tends to work while used in competition.  The more the technique is seen, learned, taught, spread and used, the less effective it becomes in a sense as the awareness for that technique is ever growing.

 

It's like Penicillin and Bacterial Infections.  The drug's usefulness is nearly depleated as it was used so regularly at one point that most Bacteria developed a resistance to it and have thus become somewhat innoculated.

 

I feel that this same type of thing can happen to your favorite moves.  So I tend to stay away from my best subs as much as possible so that when it's fight time, there will be a high likelyhood that my opponent will not have seen my sub or it's set up before our meeting.

 

For instance, one of my best set of moves comes off the Backwards Upsidedown Triangle from the Kimura Submission Staging Site, but I try not to use it.  I keep in up my sleeve for when I need it most, and instead use the Arm Triangle Cirlce of Doom from the same Staging Site so that the Backwards Upsidedown Triangle series maintains as much of it's potency as possible.

 

Does anyone else here use this same type of strategy?

May 6, 2011
2:56 pm
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All the time! I know that basics are great and neccisary, but its a feeling of deep satisfaction to tap someone with a move they have never seen before.

May 6, 2011
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I had to stop using kimura. Well I just use the term bent arm submissions. I was nailing them from any angle everywhere. So I could grow I stopped using them BUT and that is a big but the time off of rolling has not been good to me. I am now working rust off of alot of stuff I was pretty fluid at just a few months ago.

May 7, 2011
9:20 am
Dr Sick

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wylothar said:

I had to stop using kimura. Well I just use the term bent arm submissions. I was nailing them from any angle everywhere. So I could grow I stopped using them BUT and that is a big but the time off of rolling has not been good to me. I am now working rust off of alot of stuff I was pretty fluid at just a few months ago.


Back in the Garage days with Coach Kiser, he used to be the same way.  Kimuras from every which way.  But, he over used them, and now everyone that's been around with us for any amount of time, knows their way around them.  I can't remember the last time Kiser went for a Kimura.  Penicillin life span by the book.

May 17, 2011
10:21 am
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So true man. After I burned out my chicken wings, I burned out the basic leg locks then quarter position and now I fear the day that the arm triangle will lose it's effectiveness.

 

I have been rolling once a week at Bernales Institute with a gi. It's so interesting. All my moves that quit working on my usual training partners years ago, are working like a charm there. I am getting leg locks everywhere and wrestling for top position on most of the guys. These guys are sweeping me more and I am always fighting off arm bars and triangles which hasn't happened at Mushin for a long time. I know it's only a matter of time before these guys start protecting their ankles and countering me. Then it will be back to the drawing board. Kru Will said the other night "Jiu-Jitsu is such a humbling art. You can have a bad night on the mat or a bad year on the mat". Amen!

 

When I don't keep using my "go to" moves then I start to lose my timing and sometimes I forget that they are there all together.

 

This brings me to another topic I have been pondering for years. How much time and resources to dedicate for training the strong parts of your game vs the parts that need improvement. Actually, I think I will go post a new topic on that now…

May 17, 2011
10:27 am
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Right now, my number one most effective "secret technique" that I don't want people to build an immunity to is the guardless guillotine. I taught it on Damage Control and it received a lot of flack on youtube. I think I have tapped and swept more good guys with that then any other move besides the arm triangles. It is money in the bank for me and I have totally quit using it to try and preserve it's effectiveness.

 

I once told Yamasaki

"Oh come on man, there are no secret techniques anymore. We are living in the information age."

 

I was wrong. There is one secret technique and it is…

 

THE GUARDLESS GUILLOTINE!

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