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5:38 am
May 5, 2010
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purek
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hey all, first post !
I watched this incredibility yesterday http://damagecontrolmma.com/th…..shin-lock/
and it made me think.How effective/wise/stupid do you guys think it would be, to intentionally give part of your back to the agressor, to then do the catch shin lock…..the move is generally completely unknown, and I reckon it could reak havoc amongst training partners, since before they understand it, everyone would be like "okay, what just happened?" and after they would know it, they would be very cautious when taking your back, since it wouldnt be clear if they got it, or is it just another trap
what do you think ?
regards,
Andrew
edit: wanted to change the post topic, because I made a mistake, but now I cant seem to edit it :(
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5:04 pm
May 5, 2010
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wylothar
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I wouldn't intentionally give up my back for a shin lock but definitely work the scenario for when it happens. Maybe work it in relative safe rolling and see. In application till you get the sensitivity to find that spot they can be very tough to get. I am better with the shin on shin lock. I find the elbow one tough. I don't have pointy elbows. I need a lot more refining on the pressure and application that way. If someone gets my back I will try for the shinlock or tucking the foot behind my knee for an inverted ankle lock.
I find that shin locks and other pain moves are more of getting a partner to move to get to something better structured than getting a tap. A beginner will probably tap, the more experience you get you take the pressure away. So I pain and pressure to work them into something. Kinda like a cow dog works cattle, little bit here, little pressure here, gotcha!
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12:29 am
May 6, 2010
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Dr Sick
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Personally, I would never give up my back on purpose. It just goes against almost every fundamental rule of grappling/fighting. All your tools (hands, fee, knees, eyes, etc.) are all pointed in the wrong direction. But there are times that you will have to in order to escape something else, like a figure four shouler lock from mount or a head and arm choke from side cross. In both scenarios it's the lesser or two evils, although you've given up position to save a limb or your neck.
Wait till you guys see the back escape series in the members area. We've got a few new tricks that no one has seen. It's some of our best stuff yet. I think I'll put that up as the Online Classroom subject next.
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12:31 am
May 6, 2010
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Dr Sick
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Oops,
forgot to say, the key for the elbow in shin lock is the elbow in femoral artery first to set it up. The elbow to the femoral usually gets your opponent to move back, practically putting thier shin right under your elbow. This act keeps your opponent too far away to sink in an effective choke or cross face.
I learned this directly from Coach Billy Robinson in the clip you posted above.
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