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9:02 pm
December 20, 2011
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First i'd like to say, I've been lurking here for a while and I love the site. Keep up the good work!
My problem is that my anterior tibialis (the muscle on the front of the shin: http://redsports.sg/wp-content…..bialis.png) is very developed from years of playing soccer. At the thickest part just below my knee, when I flex comes out probably 1/4" above the bone. This creates obvious problems when I kick low, because when my kicks are checked I end up muscle to bone instead of bone to bone. I've worked with my instructor on this, and thus far he is sort of at a loss since he doesn't think i'm turning my hip too far over.
I know there is only so much advice anyone can give without actually seeing me do the technique, but has anyone ever encountered this problem, or worked with anyone who has over developed shin muscles?
Thanks a lot!
5:13 am
May 22, 2011
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It appears from your post that the thickest part is right below your knee. I generally use the lower portion of my shin to make contact. Without seeing you perform the kick could it posibly be a the part of the shin you are trying to land? Or maybe your distance ? I have burned my foot up from kicking to far away.
An exercise I warm up with and feel that has helped immensely is to have a partner hold your ankle at waist level. Now turn your hip over simulating a kick and bouncing on your supporting leg.
Hope this helps.
12:59 pm
December 20, 2011
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Hey Robin, thanks for the reply. You may be right about the portion of the shin i'm making contact with. I've been taught to strike with the middle portion of my shin (coincidentally where my muscle is thick), and to drive the knee deep across the opponent. I've always been concerned about striking with the lower part of my shin since the bone isn't as thick there, but maybe it's time to adapt my technique. We spar tonight, so i'll give it a try and see how it goes.
3:33 pm
May 22, 2011
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Hey good luck. This forum and website as a whole have become my home. It's all about helping each other.
I was taught also to use the mid shin but from my experience the mid shin is best for the body kick. For leg kicks I use the lower shin.
4:55 am
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July 23, 2009
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In my experience with newer people, I find they hit with the upper shin naturally more so than the lower 3rd of the leg. I don't remember where I was told this but the lower third is the reference of the contact zone I was taught that stuck with me.
If you feel like shin location is off in sparring. I would really work thai pads with a good holder. A holder is a million bucks. If they are good they can feel you impact and correct for it. When you hit right your body will register it, lots of reps on moving thai pads and contact figured out. You will also learn the ranging part of the application. If you are too close for proper impact move yourself or the holder. Lots of reps like this and that proper setup and application becomes instinctual.
Make sure you and your holder are on the same page, and if you move the holder do not push at the pads, could spell bad experience. My Wyoming coach, Sifu Hagar will present pads really close and we step off and push him back on his upper torso to get the distance we desire. We have found this creates a built in range finder for the body.
It is also in my experience if your hips are restricted midline and above can be difficult until you start getting you hips open. If you have a shortened hip flexor, or tight IT band as you raise your leg the Hip, knee relationship is sub optimal.
Just my $.02 worth.
11:06 am
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June 9, 2009
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nas7ybuttler,
Welcome to the forums! I've thought about your dilemma for a few days and a few things come to mind. First, what are you ultimately training for? If you're training for recreational reasons with no plans for fighting, I say pick up a pair of quality shin pads. Heh, funny thing is, due to a painful bone bruise/fracture? I've been nursing, I've been looking into alternative shin protection and as a result, found something pretty amazing. In fact, I was so impressed with it, I shot a video of it and plan to put it up as a blog post some time down the road. Long story short, I've been using Lawn Hockey Shin Guards under my el cheapo Tiger Claw Cloth Shin and Instep shin guards. I'm so happy with the results, I think I'm going to make it my permanent set up.
If your problem is that your leg is getting hurt during training, then I say this would be a great way to go. If you plan on fighting and your problem is that you're not inflicting enough damage because you're hitting with a softer tool than your shin bone, you can use the lower part of your leg like these other fine gentlemen have suggested, or your can experiment with alternative kicking styles. There is an old Thai method where you basically reverse the order of operations. Instead of brining the shin over, around and down on the target, you bring your kick around and at the last second, turn your Knee and toes upward toward the ceiling so that the inner blade of the shin makes contact with your opponent rather than the front of your shin.
Hope this helps and thanks again for being part of the Damage Control MMA experience.
7:41 pm
December 20, 2011
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Thanks Dr, great tip about turning the toes upwards right before contact! I was watching this video of Hoost:
and noticed that is exactly what he was doing with a lot his leg kicks. I'm not quite ready to incorporate this into my kicks yet, but i'll keep it filed away in the back of my brain. I've started working on using the lower part of my shin during sparring sessions, and there has been a noticeable improvement. I definitely need to drill this more so I can adapt to the new distances required.
Thanks for your help everyone!
10:58 pm
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June 9, 2009
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You tend to see the old style kicks more often from the clinch or close to the clinch. I seem to remember a fight between Ernesto and Igor Vorchanchin where he used the old style kick.
4:59 am
May 22, 2011
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There is a youtube clip of Fedor Emeilianenko teaching the upward glancing style kick. To me it would act more as a probing type of kick. You are not turning the hips over (no power) but the switch off is this type of kick is fast and you can maintain your fighting structure.
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