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2:53 pm
November 7, 2009


KJGould

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Anyone know much about this? It's something I was taught when I used to do a JKD concepts system a few years ago (I had to stop because of moving and job shifts patterns changing, but I plan to get back into it). I was taught by a guy who was certified under Guru Dan Inosanto and Sifu Richard Bustillo.

Basically 'gunting' is a way of deadening parts of the body (particularly the arms). The principle is similar to aiming for nerve bundles with kicks to the legs (as demonstrated in your anatomy of the legkick videos) combined with Erik Paulson's "Short Shot" techniques. The forearm chop to the leg in one of your videos would also be considered 'gunting'.

It's used a little bit in Wing Chun, but is quite prominent in a form of Pencak Silat from Indonesia.

I mostly used it when clinching with someone. Essentially you work on sliding the blades of your forearms across opponents muscles such as biceps and triceps while in clinch, and using arcing elbow strikes to hit arm muscles E.G. such as a lead arcing upwards elbow (like an uppercut) after slipping a punch to the outside.

It's a great way to sap energy from your opponents arms and make them feel heavy and lacking in 'snap' for punches. It also shows a form of doing damage in the distance between striking and clinching (in the half beat between the two, if you will).

With a lot of focus on leg kicks these days, legitimate attacks to the arms often get overlooked, and while I can't claim you could ever finish a fight with 'gunting' to the arms or body I'm certain it will help you break down your opponent and weaken them for the offense you practice from clinch, of even on the ground.

Thanks for reading.

KJ

9:50 am
November 8, 2009


Dr Sick

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I totally agree and am a big fan of Guntings. I use them personally and occasionally work with them in our CSW class. I like them because often times the MMA Cavemen aren't aware of them and are caught completely off guard when you start striking and targeting the unconventional targets.

I think they work well when you have the guard, when you're within someone's guard as well as when you are standing up.

But I try not to mention them much because, like you said I think that they get overlooked and like having them as a sneaky little card to play in a tough spot… And I don't want the general public to catch on, which usually decreases a technique's effectiveness. ;)

10:23 am
November 9, 2009


zaxonortesus

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I have never heard of them… but that doesn't surprise me, I haven't heard of a lot. So are you talking about specifically targeting nerves? Just in the arms? Is there a particular method to the strikes? When in a clinch, if hips are in and knees are kind of out of the question, I will throw heels targeting the back of the leg, specifically the sciatic nerve just above the knee… Really Old School Muay Thai style. Is that what you are talking about?

9:47 am
November 10, 2009


Dr Sick

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Not really. A knee block or spike of the Thai Kick is really a form of Gunting. Destroying a fist with the point of your elbow as it comes in would also fall into the general category of Gunting… at least in my own world… I'm definitely no Kali expert. But I do study here and there and feel that there is a lot that Kali has to offer the MMA community.

11:40 am
December 25, 2009


Tap_or_Choke

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Gunting is great when you can actually apply it.
It's a complex motor skill, so one has to work on it a lot to make it functional.
But, as Dr. Sick said, when this is used on someone who doesn't know anything about it, the results can be great.

I don't know if the guiding the opponent's fist to your elbow is allowed in the ring. Dr. Sick??

On the street I wouldn't rely on this too much since the a-dump and complex motor skills don't match that well.

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