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11:36 am
May 22, 2011
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Wow your extended large packs/supplies is very thought out. My small bag is just that, it's small in equipment an the poundage is very low. I have been working on an extended life kit with blankets and canopy etc. For the guys who haven't investigated this before you need to think weight. If you have to bug out quickly you need a small bag to carry your first line defense items. I'm gonna add some fishing line and flies to my extended bag thanks for that info.
The communication problem is hard to crack. The walkie talkies would be good but only within a certain distance and depending on the other person.
Also another good idea to be map out or have lists of pharmacies, food banks, armories and training centers. I would probably not loot the local super market due to other looters but food banks are usually filled. The same goes for armories, weapons and ammo galore.
10:45 pm
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June 9, 2009
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Great tips, haven't thought of those yet. Will do.
Yeah, the large packs are approximately 35 lbs. with 2 liters of water on board. But after talking this over with friend, and stewing on it. I decided that if weight becomes an issue, you can always tear out and drop anything you don't think will be needed right away.
I agree with size and weight constraints and considerations though which is why I have a few smaller packs. I've also begun a different overall strategy. I'm taking a modular approach now with multiple small 5 – 6 lbs. packs. I'm also starting to work in a lot of redundancy between EDCS (every day carry systems), light packs, medium packs, and large packs. I'm also beginning to put together dedicated car packs, and office packs. Again with a lot of redundant gear.
So say, I only have time to pick up a light pack and jump in the car then speed to my wife's work to pick her up. Supposing we have 12 oz of water in each pack, by the time we get together, we would have 36 oz. I just picked the water oz. out of thin air to demonstrate the idea. But hopefully you'll get the picture.
I'm still itching to hear what everyone else packs in their loadouts.
Robin Jeff Davis, what are you slingin? I want specifics, brand names, reviews and application, field use. What do you like what don't you like. What do you have, what do you want, what do you want to get rid of?
11:11 pm
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June 9, 2009
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Oops, I also forgot to mention that I carry a small bottle of clorox bleach and a small bottle of baby powder in each of my first aid kits.
I need to upgrade all kits with about 10 squares or more of Toilet Paper. Funny how such a simple but hugely important and versatile thing gets overlooked.
2:07 pm
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June 9, 2009
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This just happened in and around my Hood yesterday!
Had I been there, or been involved, I'd would have been equipped with my Dedicated Car Ready Kits! Don't be jealous of my EDC!
3:25 pm
May 22, 2011
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Wow thats some snow. I freaking hate cold weather. Many states are adopting new vehicle inspections that require every vehicle to have a first aide kit. My edc takes care of mine since I have a lite bug out bag for my truck.
That song is gonna be my anthem. Great find and stay warm.
3:42 am
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July 9, 2009
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Those drivers were Insane!!!!! I know that was terrible but real cool to watch. I hope no-one was badly injured.
Loved the Rap!!! amazing!!
11:43 am
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June 9, 2009
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Dude, I don't know what it is but my neck of the woods (which is supposed to be "the good part of town") is getting friggin crazy!
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148�…..igh-school
Roy High is in the same division as Davis, where I went to school. It's not that far away. Definitely close enough to get up tight about. As we've said all along in this thread. Things happen. Prepare, prevent when possible, and whatever you do, don't lull yourself into sleep thinking it could never happen to you.. here… in the safe part of town, "where all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above average."
10:36 pm
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July 9, 2009
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That is crazy!! I can never understand this 'I don't like people' thought process. There's some people that you naturally won't get on with but there are plenty of great people out there too.
At 16 I think I was still playing with my WWF figures, nothing like this would ever have crossed my mind.
What a crazy world this is!
12:52 pm
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June 9, 2009
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"Grossman posed the question of how many kids have been killed by school fires in the past 25 years in all of North America. The answer, ZERO.
He then noted that in 1998 alone, school violence has resulted in 35 dead, 250,000 injured. And lest you think 1998 was an anomaly, Grossman noted 48 died from school violence in 2004.
The reason fire doesn't kill school kids, Grossman explained, is that "fire guys have set up multiple redundant, overlapping layers of protection." No one calls such extravagant fire prevention efforts into question, "yet we try to prevent violence," Grossman observed, "and people think we're crazy. DENIAL!"
"Denial has no survival value" became a repeatedly used phrase throughout the day, usually to punctuate another case study example of a place where the lack of preparation for a potential deadly force encounter (no one prepared because they were in denial) got people killed. Thanks to denial, "teachers aren't prepared for violence. …If they had done a fraction of preparation for violence [at Columbine] as they had done for fire…"
"Why did we have to wait until after Columbine to change our training and coin the word "active shooter?" Denial!
Observing that the Virginia Tech mass-murderer chose the building he attacked because it had no ground-floor windows and only three double-doors that could be chained from the inside, Grossman asked "how many kids have to die before every class has two exits and a securable door?"
"If teachers can be fired for failure to do fire drills, how much more mean and ugly should we be to those who refuse to prepare for violence?"
This from http://www.killology.com/art_buckeye.htm and don't forget that only a few short weeks ago, this happened in our own backyard: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/he…..eal-plane/
3 more kids dead from the school shootings in Ohio. We will continue to watch the body count rise until we finally, as a society, decide that we love our children enough to make changes, to begin training and awareness, to develop and make standard, active shooter defensive tactics for our schools. Until we stop hiding our heads in the sand, we will continue to watch our cafeterias, hallways and classrooms filled with the blood of kids who's lives might be saved by taking a few, simple precautionary measures.
3:00 pm
February 18, 2012
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Its a truly terrible thing ,what has happened to our kids ? in the uk we are going through a boom in knife crime ,gun crime is still there and kids are getting shot in the cross fire of drug and gang related violence but the knife crime in teenagers is truly chilling ,i saw a tv programme showing a trauma unit set up in an east london hospital soley to deal with knife wounds with kids of 13 stabbing each other .some seeing it as some kind of rite of passage . i know schools are introducing airport style metal detectors and security staff in places to help combat this plague .
paul.
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