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Effect of Training
September 10, 2011
11:30 am
Adham "The Spartan"
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When does the training takes effect? like..after weightlifting or conditioning take effect on the muscles?

September 10, 2011
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Welcome Adham! For every person it is different. From what I understand its based on a number of key factors. Age, how fast of a healer you are, what you eat, and how hard of a workout you put in.  For me personally, with the right diet and a medium heavy workout, it takes me around 24-48 hours from the end of my workout to recover, the more you push yourself, the more time you need to recover.  

September 10, 2011
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rob davis
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Adham "The Spartan" said:

When does the training takes effect? like..after weightlifting or conditioning take effect on the muscles?

That's a hard question to answer, all of what Mr. Yamasaki said is true. What kind of weightlifting, low reps with heavy weight, high reps with low weight, etc. Also conditioning what kind, metabolic or lsd ? Age and diet and general health all factor into these things. I have found through the years that the season plays a part in my recovery. I strength train and recover better in the winter maybe due to less outside activity and more sleep.

You also need to look at what kind of recovery aids you are employing. I use foam rollers, tennis balls, epsom salt baths and hot and cold water therapy. Hope this helps. 

September 10, 2011
11:41 pm
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Oops I meant to say "what Mr. TCMAG" said. Foot in mouth

September 11, 2011
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Hmm, you see, i have a fight in 23th sept. and i was wondering if i still have time to get stronger and stuff, i am 15 years old, 179 cm (5'10), i do cardio 2000 jump rope, 30 minutes of shadow boxing (3 boxing only, 3 boxing with kicks, etc..) then a striking sessions (mitts, sandbag work, defense sparring), then strength and conditioning depends on the day might be bodyweight routine(ITS A KILLING ROUTINE!!), might be a striking/grappling circuit (5x5 Minute Rounds), and might be weightlifting (Heavy Weight, Low Reps)…and that's it.

September 11, 2011
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There are people  here  more  qualified than me to answer but here's my $.02. If your comp is the 23rd. I don't think you can gain any muscle strength that would help. I would slowly taper off the strength training a week out from the comp day. I agree with low rep / heavy weight as it builds strength not extra body weight.

At this late stage I wouldn't focus on extra conditioning in the form of other exercises but in fight drills. I would keep small amounts of the shadowboxing (focusing on the techniques you want to use or your game plan) jumping rope as a easy warm up and cool down. For the heavy bag and focus mitt work I would do rounds of proper technique early rounds then finish with conditioning rounds like speed punching, hard punching as well as kicks and knees on the pads. 

Your sparring should should also begin to taper and focus on executing your game plan and timing. Don't want to snag an injury at this time before the comp. For the grappling I would set sparring rounds of about medium intensity and wrestle for 5 min rounds and include a few sprints of escaping positions like mount and back mount. I would definitely suggest lots of fluid intake and rest and relaxation. Visualizing your up coming comp will help tremendously, see your self executing your techniques and winning. Hope this helps     

September 11, 2011
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The way I think about strength is are you strong enough that strength isn't going to be why you would lose? If so then I would only work a routine strength maintenance to keep and not lose it. That goes for anytime training. Don't waste time on small percentages until that is all you have left. I would use that same principle for other performance pathways. I would then work on my weaker pathways of performance for higher % results. Agility, Cardio(anerobic mostly), application of technique.

 

23rd, I would start tapering on most hard training so you are recovered and actually can peak near fight time.

September 11, 2011
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Adham "The Spartan"
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what kind of hard type training, i would like to be at my peak before the fight.

September 11, 2011
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I think he is referring to any type of hard training. Whether it be sparring or weight training.

September 11, 2011
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Basically that is what I would imply. I also wouldn't try to pick up something to new for techniques. Stick to what you have down pat, train, don't get injured, heal up, be ready to rock. Focus on weight cut so you don't have last minute crappy cut.

September 12, 2011
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My weight is perfect at the time, so sparring, same strength/weight/banter i do, should i continue my power sandbag rounds? it goes something like 30 second power body shots, 15 second power jabs, stuff like that. I also bike about 6-8 Kms or Run for 10 Mph for about..hmm..20-30 Minutes, And as for mitts my coach does it for me, I don't know he's plan really, I would like to know some drills to get better at what i already have, and also i am a striker, so my game plan is Striking and Takedown defense, any help on takedown defenses? Thank you for the help!

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